thanks for the detailed discription. But I've done this for a while (exactly 
how you told! and BTW I know how to use a mail client. If I'm unhappy with my 
mail client I'm able to develop my own in a couple of programming languages)

I got the mail from majordomofortech.cz, now I'm got the same email again.

> Your request to .... has been forwarded to the owner of the "ppluseng-l" 
list for approval. ...
> ... When the list owner approves your request, you will be notified. 

".. you will be notified" ! Nobody "notified" me!!